Celestial Reasonings 2

Alternative Medicine => Bio Energetics => Topic started by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:07:17 PM

Title: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:07:17 PM
Where Moldavite Came From-----Moldavite-the enigmatic precious stone, whose origin is still shrouded in mystery. The myths about moldavite date back to the early Middle Ages. Is moldavite one of the stones of the Holy Grail which fell from the skies and which has the capacity to give people eternal youth and immortality?

The modern science has created a number of theories on the origin of moldavite. The most plausible of them says that about 15 million years ago a huge meteorite landed somewhere in the territory of today's Central Europe. The kinetic energy transformed into thermal energy within a fraction of a second and brought about the formation of hot liquid magma which was then catapulted back into the atmosphere. The dispersed mass descended again on the Earth in the form of molten drops within the distance of hundreds of kilometers. Due to complex geological and tectonic processes, the vast majority of the moldavitean mass was destroyed by gradual erosion. Only minor residua of the original sediments have been preserved until now. For this reason, moldavite is a very rare precious stone to be found only in a few localities and deposits. And because moldavite can be easily damaged when mining, the stones have to be mined manually and the gravel containing moldavite carefully sorted.

The Healing and Esoteric Properties of Moldavite---- People who are able to perceive extra-sensory stimuli from around them are well familiar with the fact that moldavite irradiates special types of energy. When placing the palm of their hand over moldavite, they feel pleasant warmth, or mild twitching. After a while this feeling spreads from the palm to the wrist and further on, up to the elbow. Compared with other precious stones, such as amethyst or crystal, the radiation coming from moldavite is much more intensive. Moldavite is therefore used in alternative medicine as a transformer of energies, because due to its properties, it is able to gain energy from the cosmic space and transfer it to the organism. Many scientists from all over the world try to explain why it is that moldavite "gives out" most energy. It seems that we must seek the answer to this question in the manner in which this peculiar stone came into existence. Before they solidified and landed on the Earth again, the stones had entered the high layers of the atmosphere. This theory is supported by conclusive evidence: the gas contained in the microscopic cracks of moldavite was analyzed and discovered to be different from that in the atmosphere close to the Earth. The pressure of the gas corresponds with the atmospheric pressure found at the height of about 40 kilometers above the surface. There is no trace of the crystallization process in moldavite. The molten mass from which it developed must have solidified very quickly. All these facts can be the reason for the transfer of energy between moldavite and living organisms.

http://sowle.com/moldavitestory.htm
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:11:55 PM
   
Moldavite:
The Crystal
From Outer Space
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About 20 million years ago a meterorite shower fell in the Moldau Valley of Czechoslovakia. The result of this shower was moldavite, a rare crystal of a bottle-green, translucent hue. Although some people believe that it is a true meteorite (formed in outer space), it is more generally believed that it originates from rock that was struck by a meteorite and melted. According to the latter belief, moldavite combines extraterrestrial and terrestrial properties.

It is generally considered to be one of the stones very important for this particular phase of human evolution. Many people feel that at this time there are countless souls who are not originally from Planet Earth, but from the Pleiades, Sirius, Orion, and other systems.

The belief fueling this thought is that for our Earth to fully heal itself, new races of beings are needed, those with what might be described as a more cosmic view of existence. These souls, incarnating for the first time on this planet, (and in some cases for the first time in a physical body) need a way to be grounded in the unique energies of this planet, and moldavite is one of the helpers for this.

At one time in my life, I would have dismissed this as a fascinating theory. I have since learned that ideas which I used to dismiss without a second thought have become part of my belief system.

You don't have to believe this theory, however, to benefit from moldavite, for we can more generally look at it as a stone that can both help us be comfortable in physical existence and remind us that our Earth is part of a much larger system of consciousness.

When placed on the third eye, moldavite helps us to establish the cosmic connection. When placed on the heart it teaches us to appreciate the gift of being here on Earth.

On a more practical level, many people have reported that moldavite helps to release all that is no longer needed for personal growth: old ideas: leftover emotional/mental habits, whatever you know on a deep level needs to go.

Because its energies are so powerful it's a good idea to keep it near you a lot when you first get one and to meditate with it regularly. Whenever moldavite is used in meditation it is recommended that a grounding stone: black tourmaline, hematite, tiger's eye, smoky quartz, red jasper, or obsidian, be placed by the feet for grounding purposes.

Special warning: You will find in time that more and more things seem to be unnecessary: the relationship you're hanging on to because it's comfortable and you don't like to be lonely, for example. You may find it more and more important to be honest with both yourself and others.

So even if you don't believe in extraterrestrial beings, moldavite is a valuable stone for you, but if you're just a bit curious, moldavite may open some doors. What these doors open to, well, you'll have to decide that.

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/crystal/gems/moldavite.html
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:14:15 PM
Metaphysical Properties:  Stone of communication. Stimulates cooperation and transfer of energies between those of extra-terrestrial origins and those inhabiting earth.  Moldavite works well with the third eye, throat and crown chakras.  It corresponds to all astrological signs.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Aurora on March 07, 2008, 02:21:58 PM
I had a great piece of moldavite at one time. It went to a jeweler friend who was going to study in African shamanism.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
Cool.  It's a wonderful stone.  I have a piece set into a sterling silver ring. 

It just popped into my head  earlier that I should post about moldavite.  I'm assuming it's because someone needs the info.  :dunno: :laugh:

MOLDAVITE:
THE HEALING CRYSTAL SPANNING MILLENIA
"The Gem That Fell to Earth"

In modern times, Moldavite has emerged as one of the healing crystals most prized by metaphysical users, and hundreds of stories about its transformational properties have been told. It has been credited with innumerable powerful life changes.

The common wisdom is that Moldavite crystal is a catalyst for inner evolution towards one’s highest good. The changes it brings can be intense and rapid, but they are, by all accounts, significant and valuable to the individual. The healing can occur in the physical body, one’s chakra system, one’s dream life, one’s awareness of healing spirit guides and other aspects of the spiritual dimensions, one’s career, one’s relationships and just about any other dimension of life where crystal healing can be useful.

Anyone interested in crystal healing should add Moldavite to their crystal collection. The green Moldavite crystal has a prominent reputation for rapid healing and powerful life changes. The book The Illustrated Directory of Healing Crystals: A Comprehensive Guide to 150 Crystals and Gemstones (Cassandra Eason) suggests that Moldavite crystals can be helpful for healing environmental issues. Moldavite crystal is an excellent choice for healing illness that is not responding to conventional treatment. Healing from pollution or ills of the modern world such as asthma can be possible. Those trying to quit smoking should consider wearing Moldavite.

The Illustrated Directory of Healing Crystals: A Comprehensive Guide to 150 Crystals and Gemstones also suggests that Moldavite crystal is a stone to wear if you spend a good deal of time alone, as its healing properties can help you strengthen and rejoice in your unique qualities. For crystal healing with children, it can help them connect with the wider universe. It is also recommended as a healing crystal for spiritually evolved cats.

Moldavite’s existence predates history. The Neolithic peoples of Eastern Europe regarded the dark-colored glassy crystal as a spiritual talisman more than 25,000 years ago. The excavated site of the famed Venus of Willendorf also uncovered a significant number of crystal Moldavite amulets, arrowheads and cutting tools.

In Czech folklore, Moldavite crystal was believed to bring harmony and healing to marital relationships, and the green crystal was used as a traditional betrothal gift for centuries.

Perhaps Moldavite’s greatest role in crystal healing history takes place as the substance purportedly used to create the Holy Grail of Arthurian legend. In some recountings, the Grail was said to be not a cup, but a stone; a crystal Emerald that fell from the sky. In other stories, the Grail cup was carved from the crystal Emerald. The correspondences of the Stone of the Grail with Moldavite crystal are clear. The ancients called all clear green gemstones “Emeralds”, and Moldavite is the only such crystal ever to have fallen from the sky.

Like the Stone of the Grail, a healing Moldavite crystal seems to be a harbinger of one’s higher destiny and a helpful and healing talisman for the achievement of it. As a healing tool, Moldavite crystal can help one to bring about the right relationship, right livelihood and can align the rest of one’s life into harmonious accord with the divine pattern.

Moldavites are amorphous crystals, or natural glasses, with a hardness of 5.5 to 6. Unlike other tektites (small brownish or tar black glassy rocks, formed from meteoric impacts), Moldavite crystal is a deep green color. It is the only variety of tektite suitable for cutting and faceting as a gem, and crystal healing jewelry has been made out of it for literally thousands of years. It can be cut and polished, and forming the crystal into certain geometric shapes - such as pyramids, spheres and gems which are round, triangular, oval or emerald cut - can enhance the focus and intensity of its healing energy.

An excerpt from the Book of Stones (Robert Simmons and Naisha Ahsian) best explains Moldavite’s genesis: "… Some Scientific theorists contend that Moldavite is earthly rock melted by the heat of the meteorite crash, while others suggest that the material is of extraterrestrial origin, possibly a type of obsidian ejected by a lunar volcano. A third theory holds that Moldavite is a fusion product of meteoric material and earthly rock which were vaporized in the tremendous heat of the impact explosion, the resultant gas being propelled high in the atmosphere. This gaseous material would have then cooled and condensed into a liquid glass which 'rained' down on the crater and surrounding areas. Regardless of which, if any, of these ideas is correct, it is known that Moldavite indeed fell from the sky because of the aerodynamic shapes of certain pieces, and virtually all scientists associate it with the meteoric collision which formed the Bohemian plateau and surrounding mountains."

From the book Moldavite: Starborn Stone of Transformation (Robert Simmons and Kathy Warner): “Time and again, in legend, myth and fantasy, you can find the story of the celestial green gem of transformation. A starborn catalyst of healing and wholeness, the sacred talisman of awakening, its call opens the door to our destiny.  It has been almost unnoticed in our midst for many years, but now in the times of critical mass we find it again, the Moldavite,multitude of human channels. Its function as a spiritual tool grows and clarifies as we use it. As more of us find the commonality of our experiences with it, our sense of oneness grows."
http://www.healingpendants.com/site/1586786/page/855805
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:40:41 PM
Another cool tektite is Libyan Desert Glass.

http://www.sinfin.net/rocks/rockslist8.html

I believe that we may fairly lay claim to Libyan Desert Glass as our own "discovery" because, although known to scientists since the 1930s, it is only very recently that workers interested in the esoteric properties of rocks and crystals have begun to realize the tremendous potential offered by this unique material. Melody mentions it only in passing, as an example of a more general family of natural glasses.

Libyan Desert Glass is found only in a remote and inhospitable area of the Great Sand Sea of Egypt, near the Libyan border. It is relatively abundant: some estimates say there may be as much as 40,000 tonnes of it just lying on the surface of the desert. However, its origin is a mystery. This is an exceptionally pure form of silica glass, that has been formed at too high a temperature for normal volcanic activity. This, and the presence of typical meteoric material with a high iridium content in many samples, indicates that it is probably a tektite, that is to say a material that has been formed as the result of the impact of a large meteor. The problem with this theory is that there is no evidence of a nearby impact crater. It may be that the tektite was formed by a glancing blow from a large extra-terrestrial object.

As a tektite, it is very unusual in being nearly clear and a beautiful greenish yellow colour. The vast majority of tektites are black; just about the only other well-known coloured tektite is Moldavite.

The material was well-known to stone age peoples who lived in the area hundreds of thousands of years ago, before it became desert. They made tools from it, in much the same way as European stone age men made tools from flint. But, by the time of the great Egyptian Pharaohs, the area was almost inaccessible and only a few very hardy desert explorers, even among the desert dwelling nomads who must have traded regularly with the inhabitants of the Nile valley, would have ventured so far out. For this reason, the splendid yellow-green stone that was to form the centrepiece of the pectoral (breast-jewel) worn by Tutankhamen would have been highly prized for its rarity value alone. That it was carved in the form of a Scarab, symbol of the Sun-god Ra, seems to indicate that the ancient Egyptians were aware of the powerful Cosmic connections that are brought in by this stone.
Pectoral of Tutankhamen
Pectoral of Tutankhamen

Melody's words about Moldavite: "A pathway of interdimensional access to the highest Galactic energies, bringing higher thought forms and patterns through to the Earth plane. A multidimensional passage into other realms" (paraphrased) apply equally well to Libyan Desert Glass. However, rather than operating in the realms of the higher Chakras, Libyan Desert Glass appears to operate directly on the Vishudda (throat) and Anahata (heart) centres. Notice that the jewel of Tutankhamen was designed to be worn over the heart.

This means that Libyan Desert Glass acts as a focus and a channel for bringing Cosmic energies directly into the centre of being: the source and contact for universal love and harmony.

This energy will become essential over the next decade or so as mankind shifts its consciousness into a new age of being. Prophets of doom predict the end of the world; what is really in store for us is the end of the world as we know it. To be sure, there are hard times ahead, but these are to be perceived only as the birth pangs of a new Golden Age which many of us alive today will be privileged to see in the not very far distant future.

This stone is also a teacher, having a strong resonance with the Hermit of the Tarot deck. And on a physical level, it can help to strengthen and energize the heart and chest.

Libyan Desert Glass is not cheap, because it costs a lot of money to mount an expedition to the remoter parts of the desert to collect it. However, with current prices only about the same as those of non-jewellery grade Moldavite, I cannot recommend too highly getting a small piece of this amazing material for your collection.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Talon on March 07, 2008, 02:46:39 PM
http://www.crystalinks.com/tut.html

(http://www.crystalinks.com/tutsgem706.jpg)

Research: Meteorite Crash Helped Form King Tut Necklace - Discovery News - June 30, 2006

Yellow-green glass carved into a beetle-shaped ornament and found on a necklace worn by the ancient King Tutankhamen was created by a meteorite fireball, according to new research. The carving is known as a scarab, which are ancient Egyptian fertility symbols shaped like dung beetles. In 1999, Italian geologists performed a chemical composition test on Tut's scarab, which is the centerpiece of a colorful necklace that archaeologist Howard Carter found in King Tut's Valley of the Kings' tomb in Luxor.

The geologists determined the scarab was made out of natural desert glass for the king, who reigned from 1333 to 1323 B.C. Such glass is only found in the Great Sand Sea of the eastern Sahara desert. With a silica content of 98 percent, it is the purest known glass in the world. The desert region, located 500 miles southwest of Cairo, yields this glass in a remote 49.7 by 15.5 rectangular area. "I think an Egyptian craftsman obtained the glass and worked it into a point or scraper tool," said Mark Boslough, who led a recent study on how the glass formed.

Boslough, an impact physics expert at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico, added, "Glass fractures in ways that create sharp, useful shapes, so pieces commonly were used for tools. The glass is also often quite beautiful with interesting colors, so a jewelry maker might have taken an old tool and reworked it into the scarab. "Since most scientists believe heat from a meteorite strike produced Great Sand Sea glass, otherwise known as Libyan Desert glass, Boslough created computer simulations of how that could have happened.

He determined a 390-foot-wide asteroid traveling at 12.4 miles per second likely broke up in Earth's atmosphere around 30 million years ago, when the glass formed. "The velocity of the impacting object would have produced more energy than a nuclear explosion," he told Discovery News. "It not only would have had nuclear explosive scale, but its energy would all have been concentrated downwards. After the meteorite broke up in Earth¹s atmosphere, the temperature of the resulting fireball would have been as hot as the sun's surface. Like a blowtorch melting wax, the heat would have melted sand and sandstone into thin layers, which, when cooled, resulted in glass that later was blown into piles across the desert."

Boslough said additional evidence supports the fireball theory. "Shock minerals," for example, have been found in the same desert. These are minerals, such as quartz, which reveal sheer plane structures under magnification. Scientists believe such structures resulted from the sudden deformation caused by asteroid and fireball impacts.

Farouk El-Baz, a research professor and director of the Center for Remote Sensing at Boston University, at first was critical of Boslough¹s theory. He said, "If this glass is of meteoric origin, there should be a crater of that age." In March, however, El-Baz himself found remnants of the largest crater in the Saharan desert. It is a double-ringed crater the size of Cairo's urban region. El-Baz now suggests an extraterrestrial impact that resulted in the crater may have been responsible for the desert glass. This theory differs from Boslough's in that it means the asteroid collided with Earth in a sudden hit and did not break into a fireball beforehand. Boslough countered, "The newly discovered crater is 100 kilometers (around 62 miles) away from where the desert glass is located. Also, why don't we see this glass elsewhere?" Boslough and his team studying desert glass to determine what trace gases it might contain. The information could help to further explain what happened millions of years ago when the glass formed.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Roy on March 07, 2008, 02:50:01 PM

 Well, it looks better than the pet rock did. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Micha Fire on March 07, 2008, 06:34:35 PM
 :thumbs:  nice "stone"

but I don't like it that so many get polished and put into form .. the original has much more power ..............




most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed :bawling:

Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: redVerbals halo on June 05, 2008, 10:23:52 AM
SAY WHAT???
most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed bawling
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Roy on June 05, 2008, 03:02:44 PM

 A stone is a stone is a stone, it's what task you set for it, controlled by you.

Nothin more, nothin less.  :thumbs:

 Holly Grail..............................  :woe:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Micha Fire on June 05, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
SAY WHAT???
most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed :bawling:

pey........... "dead"! The energy they possessed damaged the same way the rest of the planet gets damaged by human mis-use.........especially the ones you can find in jewlery shops......


Could be that in untouched nature you can still find ones vibrating with their energies intact even if less than they could have; I haven't been to untouched nature lately, so I can't be sure of that  ..........

Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Roy on June 05, 2008, 06:17:45 PM

 Cut and polish. :nonono: :wacko:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: redVerbals halo on October 06, 2008, 03:43:41 PM
i am able to get a few really energetic stones from nature. i have had some brought back to me from the most interesting places too.

doesn't cleansing work?


SAY WHAT???
most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed :bawling:

pey........... "dead"! The energy they possessed damaged the same way the rest of the planet gets damaged by human mis-use.........especially the ones you can find in jewlery shops......


Could be that in untouched nature you can still find ones vibrating with their energies intact even if less than they could have; I haven't been to untouched nature lately, so I can't be sure of that  ..........


Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on October 06, 2008, 03:55:28 PM
I don't know about the "energies" but I still just like rocks :wiggle:

 queue Sandman and Zanna ...
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Roy on October 06, 2008, 05:12:34 PM
I don't know about the "energies" but I still just like rocks :wiggle:

 queue Sandman and Zanna ...

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/zanna9/igotarock.gif)
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Micha Fire on October 06, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
i am able to get a few really energetic stones from nature. i have had some brought back to me from the most interesting places too.

doesn't cleansing work?


SAY WHAT???
most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed :bawling:

pey........... "dead"! The energy they possessed damaged the same way the rest of the planet gets damaged by human mis-use.........especially the ones you can find in jewlery shops......


Could be that in untouched nature you can still find ones vibrating with their energies intact even if less than they could have; I haven't been to untouched nature lately, so I can't be sure of that  ..........



cleansing as far as I understand it will get rid of negative / unwanted influences that are attached to the stone / rock...

but it will not restore the damaged core..

you will "feel" if the stone you get is intact / alive when you touch it ...

I recently found a nice little stone on my mountain hike (there were thousands on my way, but this one wanted to be with me)..  :D.. my "pet stone".. :angel:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: redVerbals halo on October 06, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
i think i understand what you are saying. thanks Micha!
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Micha Fire on October 06, 2008, 06:09:44 PM
i think i understand what you are saying. thanks Micha!

 :hug: you're welcome ..

Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on October 06, 2008, 06:54:45 PM
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/zanna9/igotarock.gif)   :wiggle:


   :rofl:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on October 06, 2008, 08:12:41 PM
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/zanna9/igotarock.gif) too!

It's gold but I caint prove it.  Member, I almost got shot in Colorado when
I took it...:muaha:

It sits on a shelf in the bedroom.  Krystal still thinks that we could prolly
buy a house with it or something silly like that...:roar:


Zanna
  


Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on October 06, 2008, 10:07:43 PM
Cool! :thumbs:

You could weigh it and then find it's volume and then you'd know how much it's really worth :yes:

I gotz me a gold nugget too ... though it's really more like a grain of sand ... but I panned for it 'n everything and I wasn't even shot at 8)
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on October 06, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
Cool! :thumbs:

You could weigh it and then find it's volume and then you'd know how much it's really worth :yes:

I gotz me a gold nugget too ... though it's really more like a grain of sand ... but I panned for it 'n everything and I wasn't even shot at 8)



I gots a picture of the dude who tried to shoot at me, found it the other day.
It's an 8x10 of the John Wayne mine in Colorado.  Dude looks like Manson.

:roar:

I can take a picture of the rock too iffen you wants to sees it.

:matt:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Micha Fire on October 07, 2008, 05:04:43 AM
Cool! :thumbs:

You could weigh it and then find it's volume and then you'd know how much it's really worth :yes:

I gotz me a gold nugget too ... though it's really more like a grain of sand ... but I panned for it 'n everything and I wasn't even shot at 8)



I gots a picture of the dude who tried to shoot at me, found it the other day.
It's an 8x10 of the John Wayne mine in Colorado.  Dude looks like Manson.

:roar:

I can take a picture of the rock too iffen you wants to sees it.

:matt:


Zanna

yes .. DO

PLEASE

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: redVerbals halo on October 10, 2008, 12:47:30 AM
yes! do take a pix :)
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Roy on October 10, 2008, 02:52:22 AM
Cool! :thumbs:

You could weigh it and then find it's volume and then you'd know how much it's really worth :yes:

I gotz me a gold nugget too ... though it's really more like a grain of sand ... but I panned for it 'n everything and I wasn't even shot at 8)



I gots a picture of the dude who tried to shoot at me, found it the other day.
It's an 8x10 of the John Wayne mine in Colorado.  Dude looks like Manson.

:roar:

I can take a picture of the rock too iffen you wants to sees it.

:matt:


Zanna

 Waitin on a picture, Cora. :tapfoot:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on October 10, 2008, 07:45:19 AM
It's Krystal's fault.

:faint:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: redVerbals halo on October 10, 2008, 01:38:39 PM
thanks for the reminder U  :rainbow:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on October 12, 2008, 08:21:55 AM
It's still Krystal's fault.

:rofl:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 07:20:26 AM
:thumbs:  nice "stone"

but I don't like it that so many get polished and put into form .. the original has much more power ..............




most "stones" and "gems" (about 99%) you can get today are "dead" - their "core" destroyed :bawling:



My experiences have given me a quite different perspective.

Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 28, 2010, 06:44:49 PM
Yeah stones want to be polished and made purty :yes:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 07:42:35 PM
It think it is pretty well accepted that particles within the atom are in motion all the time.  It seems reasonable to me that when these atoms combine into molecular or crystaline structures they would still exhibit motion.  Motion creates vibration and vibration has frequency which does have a potential effect upon the human body.  It just needs to be seen that the vibration is unique to each stone and that it is the composition of the stone that creates the vibration/frequency.  The composition is not effected by they size, shape or condition of the stone.  Therefore there is no such thing as a dead stone.  There are however some stones, perhaps due to minor impurities that may feel better to a person than another stone of similar composition.

That's my theory anywho..

Maybe sometime I'll talk about my experiences too. :)
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 28, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
Motion does not necessarily create "vibrations" and vibrations "can" have a specific frequency but it's certainly not necessary. The atomic motion itself is simply the nature of charge particle interactions while the molecular motions {translational, vibrational, and rotational} can be zero when the temperature is at absolute zero.

In my always humble opinion whatever subtle "energies" a rock may {or may not} have should not be equated with known and readily knowable physical properties unless they themselves are measurable or atleast detectable :dunno:

That said yes please talk about your experiences :yes: As you may have noticed I generally take the opposite views but I try not to ridicule or belittle beliefs ... the people once I noes they can handle it sure :whistle:  but not the beliefs themselves  :angel:


Oh wait ok ... except for Asiel ... she is proof that there is such a thing as too :woo:

            :tease:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
Motion does not necessarily create "vibrations" and vibrations "can" have a specific frequency but it's certainly not necessary. The atomic motion itself is simply the nature of charge particle interactions while the molecular motions {translational, vibrational, and rotational} can be zero when the temperature is at absolute zero.

In my always humble opinion whatever subtle "energies" a rock may {or may not} have should not be equated with known and readily knowable physical properties unless they themselves are measurable or atleast detectable :dunno:

That said yes please talk about your experiences :yes: As you may have noticed I generally take the opposite views but I try not to ridicule or belittle beliefs ... the people once I noes they can handle it sure :whistle:  but not the beliefs themselves  :angel:


Oh wait ok ... except for Asiel ... she is proof that there is such a thing as too :woo:

            :tease:


Science needs to think more and have better equipment.  :P

One experince that was very funny just for you.  We all are around rocks all the time and rarely notice the effects it has upon us and I was no different until I took a class on stones.  For a fee we were given nine stones and a nice sheep skin pouch and the information about them to work with until the next class.  Well, I stuffed the whole bag into my pocket to carry it to work to check them all out when I had time.  By the time I got to work I was giggling like a school girl after her first beer.  Just to reinforce the effects synchronisity kicked in and I ran into a co-worker who described her expeiences with a dentists who dress up like a clown for his children patients--she hates dental work. lol

It dawned on me that the stones may have caused my odd behavior so when I got to my work area I took them out and then went outside to sit on a local rock and reground myself.  I was back to normal in no time.

This effect is call being stone drunk.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 28, 2010, 09:01:21 PM
Science doesn't make things true or false it's simply a way of thinking and approaching phenomena for study :angel:


It could also be a coinkidink that you got the giggles or something else in your environment that like the stones previously you were not aware of :dunno:

BUT it is a cool story :beerme:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
Science doesn't make things true or false it's simply a way of thinking and approaching phenomena for study :angel:


It could also be a coinkidink that you got the giggles or something else in your environment that like the stones previously you were not aware of :dunno:

BUT it is a cool story :beerme:


Yeah, lots of folks need that personal experience to know it.  Unfortunately they will never have it because these energies can be blocked mentally. It's sad to me really because the Earth Mother has so many gift to offer mankind in the way of energy.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 28, 2010, 10:03:09 PM
So do ya know anything about "orgonites"? :oz:

http://www.psifly.com/cr2/index.php?topic=13453.0
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 11:36:25 PM
So do ya know anything about "orgonites"? :oz:

http://www.psifly.com/cr2/index.php?topic=13453.0


I'll have to read a bit more on it and have you tell me what you are putting in them before I say much.  But the best test of all for me is to slip it in a pocket a carry it for a few hours.  If it works as well as black tourmaline did for me in removing negative energy it's a keeper.

:)

I had heard about the cloud busters but I haven't read up on them either.

BTW a way around the block some minds have put up against stone energy is to place the stone near your head when you sleep.  This is a time when your conscious mind is resting and your subconscious mind is active.  An interesting one might be blue Kyanite. It may cause vivid dreams and will help with dream recall. At times it seems like lucid dreaming.  Or if you are having difficulty sleeping try Olivine a form of Peridot or chrysoprase.  This has been my experience with them but yours may differ somewhat because we each have unique bodies and minds.
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: MorningMist on November 28, 2010, 11:52:44 PM
I noted on you Orgonite thread your collection of stones.  I'd like to suggest the following experiment. 

Place one stone in a small bag and as a willing subject to carry it for a few days but don't tell them what it is.  Also ask them to note any changes in their thoughts and emotions as well as any physical feelings.  If the subject gets a headache after any period of time with the stone they should remove it.  Try each stone seperately. 

As a follow up ask the subjects to place the bag near their head when they sleep.  Some folks have headboards that will hold them and some tuck them inside the pillow case. 

Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 06:29:30 AM
As for what goes in 'my' orgonites ... could be anything depending on what I'm trying for or what is requested :dunno:

I'm not sure if I have any "willing" subjects :hmm2: The woo ones already believe and the nonwoo ones wouldn't want to carry anything around for a few days ... they'd prolly think it's an explosive or poison ... I'm kind of an authority on those :whistle:

Anywho I've carried rocks around for years and even have tons of them in my room and I've never noticed anything :dunno:


I'm just a natural incesnsitive that way  :angel:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 06:37:01 AM
...the nonwoo ones wouldn't want to carry anything around for a few days ... they'd prolly think it's an explosive or poison ... I'm kind of an authority on those ....



:roar:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 06:44:18 AM
What? :dunno: I really am "high energy material science" and um yeah poisons :whistle:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 06:45:34 AM
Nothing...nothing...

Carry on.

:bsl:

Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 06:54:53 AM
Hey you stop that :bsl: ing right now :fist: it's not my fault it's all just trivial chemistry  :moon:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 06:56:53 AM
:therethere: now.

Settle down.

You're gonna make your mascara run.

:bsl:

Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 07:06:34 AM
:hello: I had a lot of training :yes: my makeup never runs :naughty: it's just really hard to remove sometimes :sigh:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 07:11:10 AM
And there you have discovered the fountain of youth.

:yes:


I once was asked why my skin looks as it does.
(Apparently some thinks I has good skin)  :bsl:

I replied, Nebber wash your face...and I mean nebber.

Water is okay, but nothing else.  :nonono:


:rofl:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 07:19:16 AM


So yer face is like permanent makeup :faint: :uhoh:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 07:21:56 AM
Apparently, so.

:bsl:

I'ze been wanting to get tatooed
eyebrows like my freind Pam had...
but alas, so far... I gets...


:no:


from Z3.


:rofl:


:secret:  I dusn't think I would does
it anywho...I just like to mess with Z3.

:crazyeyes:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 07:28:47 AM
...

:secret:  I dusn't think I would does
it anywho...I just like to mess with Z3.

:crazyeyes:


Zanna


Yeah I kinda guessed that :whistle:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 07:32:14 AM
Its done outta :wub:


:)


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 07:38:02 AM
Its done outta :wub:


:)


Zanna


Awwww :wubsigh:   :muffin: really is goggie world Zanna :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 07:40:18 AM
Yep.

Boy howdy... you see how smate you is
since you were inducted?

And, :roll: it just gets better and better.

:bsc:


:rofl:

Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 07:45:40 AM
Nope not gonna werk :moon: :nana:

I'm just the janitor :bliss:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
Nope not gonna werk :moon: :nana:

I'm just the janitor :bliss:


It's okay... little :bsc: dude.

I takes care of you until it 'sinks' in.

:hugs:


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Asiel on November 29, 2010, 09:45:13 AM
And there you have discovered the fountain of youth.

:yes:


I once was asked why my skin looks as it does.
(Apparently some thinks I has good skin)  :bsl:

I replied, Nebber wash your face...and I mean nebber.

Water is okay, but nothing else.  :nonono:


:rofl:


Zanna


that was my MOA too up until this recent 'cellulitis' thingy.  :sigh:

Oh.. & I still gots good skin except for when it's not.


:bsl:



Oh & :sigster:   :wedgie: :buttkick:  Boo!


:bsl:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 05:38:41 PM
What the heck is MOA? :scratch: The only thing that pops into my head is "Method Of Analysis" :dunno:


   :unz: :bliss: :unz:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: zanna on November 29, 2010, 05:42:31 PM
What the heck is MOA? :scratch: The only thing that pops into my head is "Method Of Analysis" :dunno:


   :unz: :uhoh: :unz: 

   :bsc:  :wiggle: :bsc:




Fixed it for you.


Zanna
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 05:44:10 PM
:la: :lalala: :lala:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Asiel on November 29, 2010, 06:23:38 PM


:spitcoffee:

I don't know what I was talking about this morning.  :crazyeyes:

I knows what I meant though.

:tease:



:happydance:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 06:26:38 PM
Yeah I thought MO would work but the A threw me. :chuckle:


Hey where's MorningMist? :scratch: I was liking her rock talk :dunno:


Did you all scare her away already :sigh:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: Asiel on November 29, 2010, 06:34:48 PM


Maybe I meant MoO?   :pie:

And :pey:  it's you who skeers peoples.  :butt:     

Methinks she'll be back.  Methinks she has a life.  :yes:   


:bliss:
Title: Re: Moldavite
Post by: lamboy on November 29, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
...

And :pey:  it's you who skeers peoples.  :butt:     

...


   :no: but I'm so 'nice' :tissue: